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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Burn » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:18 pm

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Bitching about a changed colour scheme on toys that change. Yeah, makes total sense. >:oP
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:20 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:If it had included a black crown with ruby's in it, or something, I'd have bought it on site >:oP

that would have made for a cool excessory :BOT:


Indeed 8-)

I like that they added the null rays, but I wish there was a port higher up to place them so they could work better with the arms and wings design though :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:41 pm

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Burn wrote:Bitching about a changed colour scheme on toys that change. Yeah, makes total sense. >:oP


Well, they are tf fans, what else would you expect >:oP
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:43 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
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Hellscream9999 wrote:If it had included a black crown with ruby's in it, or something, I'd have bought it on site >:oP

that would have made for a cool excessory :BOT:


Indeed 8-)

I like that they added the null rays, but I wish there was a port higher up to place them so they could work better with the arms and wings design though :BOT:


But shoulder-based armaments just seem so inefficient Image
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:44 pm

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Burn wrote:Bitching about a changed colour scheme on toys that change. Yeah, makes total sense. >:oP


That was my point, albeit said in a paragraph or two.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Burn » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:52 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:But shoulder-based armaments just seem so inefficient Image


Ya think? :-P
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william-james88 wrote:That was my point, albeit said in a paragraph or two.


Well maybe if you'd just laid back and taken it easy, Australian style, you wouldn't have bored the readers to death. :-P
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:58 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:But shoulder-based armaments just seem so inefficient Image


Ya think? :-P
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The epitome of well thought out ideas (to be fair though, it wouldn't have worked very well mounted to his arm :-P )
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

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Ya think? :-P
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The epitome of well thought out ideas (to be fair though, it wouldn't have worked very well mounted to his arm :-P )

Well now, that is a cannon!

They could have done what the legends did with the seekers so the arms were a bit more posable :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Windsweeper » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:49 am

I really want Acid Storm and Sunstorm from this mold.

I also want Dreadwind and Hooligan from Jetfire.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:28 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:44 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.
It's a toy. Chances are, you'll get over it. Image


I doubt that >:oP
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

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Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.
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I doubt that >:oP

I certainly won't mind. He'll look great to me :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:02 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.
It's a toy. Chances are, you'll get over it. Image


I doubt that >:oP

I certainly won't mind. He'll look great to me :BOT:


Really needs a crown to even out his stupid looking head >:oP
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:22 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
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Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.
It's a toy. Chances are, you'll get over it. Image


I doubt that >:oP

I certainly won't mind. He'll look great to me :BOT:


Really needs a crown to even out his stupid looking head >:oP

I actually really do not mind the head. The crown really helps it look good for Starscream but Skywarp and Thundercracker still look good with that head :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:42 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
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Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.
It's a toy. Chances are, you'll get over it. Image


I doubt that >:oP

I certainly won't mind. He'll look great to me :BOT:


Really needs a crown to even out his stupid looking head >:oP

I actually really do not mind the head. The crown really helps it look good for Starscream but Skywarp and Thundercracker still look good with that head :BOT:

Not for me, oh well, there are combiners to get instead :michaelbay:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
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Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.
It's a toy. Chances are, you'll get over it. Image


I doubt that >:oP

I certainly won't mind. He'll look great to me :BOT:


Really needs a crown to even out his stupid looking head >:oP

I actually really do not mind the head. The crown really helps it look good for Starscream but Skywarp and Thundercracker still look good with that head :BOT:

Not for me, oh well, there are combiners to get instead :michaelbay:

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:18 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Not sure how I feel about the torso being purple instead of black.
It's a toy. Chances are, you'll get over it. Image


I doubt that >:oP

I certainly won't mind. He'll look great to me :BOT:


Really needs a crown to even out his stupid looking head >:oP

I actually really do not mind the head. The crown really helps it look good for Starscream but Skywarp and Thundercracker still look good with that head :BOT:

Not for me, oh well, there are combiners to get instead :michaelbay:

Bruticus is coming up soon!

Still kinda excited for the seekers though now that i have warmed and decided to get them. IDW design for the win :BOT:


Yeah he is :michaelbay:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Shockwave7 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:31 pm

I think Skywarp looks great, but I also think I'm tapped out enough on CW repaints that I'll hold off and see if it goes on Amazon discount like Thundercracker currently has....
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Shockwave7 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:33 pm

Windsweeper wrote:I really want Acid Storm and Sunstorm from this mold.

I also want Dreadwind and Hooligan from Jetfire.



I wants Thrust, just for VTOL remolding on the wings....
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:38 pm

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Shockwave7 wrote:I think Skywarp looks great, but I also think I'm tapped out enough on CW repaints that I'll hold off and see if it goes on Amazon discount like Thundercracker currently has....

TC is going back down again in price, so I am going to pick him up and I recommend you do the same. the colors look very nice (probably the best all around). :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Rated X » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:08 pm

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Or we can think about this realistically and not make a bullshit non cannon explanation (that''s funpub's job); the reason probably has something to do with which parts are on which sprues, the chest sections may be molded with the arms and engines.


But is it really BS? Because that would mean that his chest is 100% without a doubt his nosecone. And from the looks of the toy, it isnt. No nosecone has never looked like that. And toy-wise, it isnt his nosecone, its just a chest design and his nosecone is up in the back. So all the chest is really doing is homaging the nosecone, not replacing it outright and thus the chest colour needs not duplicate the full colour. What I mean is the toy is already not the traditional Skywarp since his nosecone is not his chest. This is an update for the generations line, and seeing it that way, why cant other aspects be different?

I mean, is the colour of the chest really the only different between this

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and this?

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Thats some serious sugarcoating you did there. Lets be real. Whether the mold is Jetfire or a seeker, thats a fake cockpit/nosecone created on behalf of lazy Hasbro engineering. How hard could it have been to make his chest the actual cockpit instead of a fake ? They pulled it off quite nicely on Armada Starscream.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:06 pm

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Oh i am on your side. I was just saying that if they aren't doing it acurate where his nosecone is his chest, then why does it matter if the colour isnt accurate either?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:00 am

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Rated X wrote:Thats some serious sugarcoating you did there. Lets be real. Whether the mold is Jetfire or a seeker, thats a fake cockpit/nosecone created on behalf of lazy Hasbro engineering. How hard could it have been to make his chest the actual cockpit instead of a fake ? They pulled it off quite nicely on Armada Starscream.


First of all, Takara does the engineering. Hasbro gives them the desired designs and the budget and parameters with which to make them happen without breaking the bank (e.g., keeping profit margins high and investors happy). Secondly, the faux cockpit is because this is a retool of the Jetfire mold. It didn't have a faux cockpit, but a secondary smaller cockpit, in its design. That's a result of him being designed with the cartoon model in mind for his robot mode. The cartoon model alt mode, heavily (and notoriously) redesigned from the original toy's alt mode, includes the secondary cockpit on the underside of the fuselage (you can only see it in some rare undercarriage and transformation shots), just like this new toy, though the alt mode more resembles the original toy otherwise. To redesign the transformation scheme for the seekers to instead use the main cockpit for their chest would probably have meant completely redesigning the entire mold altogether, instead of strategically reshelling the mold and maintaining the core engineering and design. It was a cost saving measure, and one that meant the difference between having Leader class Seekers or nothing at all at that price point. Heck, Hasbro might not have even put out Leader class Jetfire had they not been assured future returns with the Seeker retool and repaints.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Class Figures Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:26 pm

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Beautiful response Wolfman Jake, I loved every word of it! Though part of me feels that Hasbro asked Takara for a jetfire mold first and when seeing what they came up with in engineering, then asked them to use the same mold to make seekers which hasbro had designed to look similar in build. Those holes at the top near the end really tell me that this was jetfire's mold and the seekers were more of an afterthough. Though burn thinks differently and I find that super cool. I look forward to reading his views on that if ever he chooses to make an editorial. Actually, no joke but I believe my favourite generations toy of last year is Leader jetfire, I just love his look. I love Arcee too, but only got her through the legends line which was only released this year.

Anyways, real talk here: I have the opportunity to buy Leader Megs (G1 deco) for 40$. Now I want to know, at that price, is he worth it? It wouldnt be for a shelf or to go with anyone but simply to have in my collection and to try out the mold. Is it a really good toy? Am I missing out by never getting this mold? And am I better off getting the G1 deco at 40$ or waiting for all the armada megs to go on ligquidation at 25-30$ and buying that instead?

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