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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:46 am

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RiddlerJ wrote:And I still can't figure out where the handle is on Shockwave's gun mode. How does Bruticus hold him?

There is some sort of handle down where the underside of the chest will be, around the arm area. Not sure what it looks like yet, but there will be a 5mm handle somewhere there :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:53 am

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Oh for goodness sakes, before we even try to do a Liokaiser, can we at least get proper technobots? And why hasbro would release a japanese only show combiner I have no clue. If it looks good that'd be nice, but some of these choices just don't sound right, and all things considered, I'd hope they would not do him and instead wait. :BOT:


Right, an :BOT: combiner with a lackluster scattershot, and a nosecone with no abs... pass.

What I don't get is that there are a metric f@#k-ton of combiners coming out, considering CW is ending halfway through next year.

We know the G2 and Victorion waves are box sets, maybe G2 sups and menasor will be a case assortment, and G2 Bruticus and victorion will be a case assortment?

So (if the [fairly accurate thus far] rumors are to be believed) then, how are the (inevitably crappy and flawed) technobots and liokaiser going to be released? They can't all be boxsets, right? Will they be interspersed throughout TW, or will they really be boxsets too? I really don't want to pay $100 for a set with 2 crappy brawl figs just to get - what I imagine would be - an epic :CON: Sky Lynx repaint.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby leokearon » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:21 pm

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Glarryg wrote:Purple and orange Shockwave is the Action Master version, which, I think, is closer to garish G2-ness than an all-gray version.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:28 pm

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I love the Action Master homage for Shockwave. I think it looks great. I'd rather have that than the other suggestions made.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:30 pm

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Seibertron wrote:I love the Action Master homage for Shockwave. I think it looks great. I'd rather have that than the other suggestions made.

Yeah, it does look really nice. I just love me some garish GEETOO goodness. :-P
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby TheAmazingBrave » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:34 pm

Purple Slingshot or not, that combined mode is damn sexy in the neon camo sort of way.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Agamemnon » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:37 pm

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leokearon wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Glarryg wrote:Purple and orange Shockwave is the Action Master version, which, I think, is closer to garish G2-ness than an all-gray version.

Glarryg


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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby leokearon » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:41 pm

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Seibertron wrote:I love the Action Master homage for Shockwave. I think it looks great. I'd rather have that than the other suggestions made.


Well the Action Master homage is also cool but where's his partner Fistfight?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:43 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Oh for goodness sakes, before we even try to do a Liokaiser, can we at least get proper technobots? And why hasbro would release a japanese only show combiner I have no clue. If it looks good that'd be nice, but some of these choices just don't sound right, and all things considered, I'd hope they would not do him and instead wait. :BOT:


Right, an :BOT: combiner with a lackluster scattershot, and a nosecone with no abs... pass.

What I don't get is that there are a metric f@#k-ton of combiners coming out, considering CW is ending halfway through next year.

We know the G2 and Victorion waves are box sets, maybe G2 sups and menasor will be a case assortment, and G2 Bruticus and victorion will be a case assortment?

So (if the [fairly accurate thus far] rumors are to be believed) then, how are the (inevitably crappy and flawed) technobots and liokaiser going to be released? They can't all be boxsets, right? Will they be interspersed throughout TW, or will they really be boxsets too? I really don't want to pay $100 for a set with 2 crappy brawl figs just to get - what I imagine would be - an epic :CON: Sky Lynx repaint.

IDK about all the rumors. The technobots could be sprinkled in considering they just need limbs and could forgo the 6th member, but Liokaiser? I just see no way that would happen :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Marcdachamp » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:49 pm

That looks phenomenal! Ever since G2 Superion was revealed, I've been hoping we'd get a G2 Bruticus to go with him! Cannot wait to have these on display in all their garish goodness!

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:03 pm

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Agamemnon wrote:
leokearon wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Glarryg wrote:Purple and orange Shockwave is the Action Master version, which, I think, is closer to garish G2-ness than an all-gray version.

Glarryg


Yeah, but energon sixshot takes the cake (while everyone was cringing at his colors ;) )


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Now THAT, that is G2 right there :DANCE:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:20 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
leokearon wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Glarryg wrote:Purple and orange Shockwave is the Action Master version, which, I think, is closer to garish G2-ness than an all-gray version.

Glarryg


Yeah, but energon sixshot takes the cake (while everyone was cringing at his colors ;) )


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Oh God! My eye's :BOOM:

Now THAT, that is G2 right there :DANCE:

Finally found something more grating to the eyes than Victorion did we now? :lol: :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:21 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:HA! Even hasbro is using the pelvis mis-transformation to cover up the fact that they f@$ked up Brawl :BANG_HEAD:

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Perhaps that's been the right way to transform it all along? Better that it doesn't lock in than have that floppy mess?

Hellscream9999 wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:And I still can't figure out where the handle is on Shockwave's gun mode. How does Bruticus hold him?


Yeah, the abs are painted, so no trickery there, so... black magic?


I think there's a peg for Shockwave to attach to Bruticus' fist. There is no proper grip unfortunately.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RiddlerJ » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:22 pm

So is that Shockwave deliberately doing the action master colors?

I can see it though it's not exact.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:32 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:HA! Even hasbro is using the pelvis mis-transformation to cover up the fact that they f@$ked up Brawl :BANG_HEAD:

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Perhaps that's been the right way to transform it all along? Better that it doesn't lock in than have that floppy mess?


Well no, the cw version has painted details showing you which is the proper side, besides, the front that's showing in the pic there, is where has/tak are putting the trademark info...
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:35 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:HA! Even hasbro is using the pelvis mis-transformation to cover up the fact that they f@$ked up Brawl :BANG_HEAD:

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Perhaps that's been the right way to transform it all along? Better that it doesn't lock in than have that floppy mess?


Well no, the cw version has painted details showing you which is the proper side, besides, the front that's showing in the pic there, is where has/tak are putting the trademark info...

I don't know what they were thinking there. Maybe the hinge was supposed to be on another corner of the crotch piece and it would have actually sat properly there, but instead they put the actual ab crunch in the wrong spot? I just don't see how anyone thought that was a good idea :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:44 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:HA! Even hasbro is using the pelvis mis-transformation to cover up the fact that they f@$ked up Brawl :BANG_HEAD:

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Perhaps that's been the right way to transform it all along? Better that it doesn't lock in than have that floppy mess?


Well no, the cw version has painted details showing you which is the proper side, besides, the front that's showing in the pic there, is where has/tak are putting the trademark info...

I don't know what they were thinking there. Maybe the hinge was supposed to be on another corner of the crotch piece and it would have actually sat properly there, but instead they put the actual ab crunch in the wrong spot? I just don't see how anyone thought that was a good idea :BOT:


The problem are those little trapezoidal bits right under the torso, you can see them in the pic, they obstruct the hinge from collapsing flush against the torso;

But I agree, this is an inexcusable travesty, especially, as it's one of two (entirely) new molds for the rest of the line, and already has a whole host of repaints of it - all of which are ruined now by virtue of association.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Mindmaster » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:48 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
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Hellscream9999 wrote:HA! Even hasbro is using the pelvis mis-transformation to cover up the fact that they f@$ked up Brawl :BANG_HEAD:

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Perhaps that's been the right way to transform it all along? Better that it doesn't lock in than have that floppy mess?


Well no, the cw version has painted details showing you which is the proper side, besides, the front that's showing in the pic there, is where has/tak are putting the trademark info...

I don't know what they were thinking there. Maybe the hinge was supposed to be on another corner of the crotch piece and it would have actually sat properly there, but instead they put the actual ab crunch in the wrong spot? I just don't see how anyone thought that was a good idea :BOT:


The problem are those little trapezoidal bits right under the torso, you can see them in the pic, they obstruct the hinge from collapsing flush against the torso;

But I agree, this is an inexcusable travesty, especially, as it's one of two (entirely) new molds for the rest of the line, and already has a whole host of repaints of it - all of which are ruined now by virtue of association.


If it's those two tabs that are being a hindrance, it shouldn't be that difficult to take them off. Exacto knife ought to do it, nail clippers too. Cut those little suckers off, sand down what's left, and that should eliminate the problem entirely. What I'm curious about is how big of an effect, positive or negative, would have on the whole figure.
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If it's those two tabs that are being a hindrance, it shouldn't be that difficult to take them off. Exacto knife ought to do it, nail clippers too. Cut those little suckers off, sand down what's left, and that should eliminate the problem entirely. What I'm curious about is how big of an effect, positive or negative, would have on the whole figure.

What it is really is that there is now way for the hinge that the waist is on to fold up against the underside of the body properly. you couldnt cut it off since you would be cutting off the whole hinge the body is attached to the waist with. There really isnt a way to fix this besides replacing that whole hinge/waist area :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:57 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:HA! Even hasbro is using the pelvis mis-transformation to cover up the fact that they f@$ked up Brawl :BANG_HEAD:

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Perhaps that's been the right way to transform it all along? Better that it doesn't lock in than have that floppy mess?


Well no, the cw version has painted details showing you which is the proper side, besides, the front that's showing in the pic there, is where has/tak are putting the trademark info...

I don't know what they were thinking there. Maybe the hinge was supposed to be on another corner of the crotch piece and it would have actually sat properly there, but instead they put the actual ab crunch in the wrong spot? I just don't see how anyone thought that was a good idea :BOT:


The problem are those little trapezoidal bits right under the torso, you can see them in the pic, they obstruct the hinge from collapsing flush against the torso;

But I agree, this is an inexcusable travesty, especially, as it's one of two (entirely) new molds for the rest of the line, and already has a whole host of repaints of it - all of which are ruined now by virtue of association.


If it's those two tabs that are being a hindrance, it shouldn't be that difficult to take them off. Exacto knife ought to do it, nail clippers too. Cut those little suckers off, sand down what's left, and that should eliminate the problem entirely. What I'm curious about is how big of an effect, positive or negative, would have on the whole figure.


Well until we have it in hand, we can't tell what they are for, but they don't seem to do anything based on optibotimus' video's :-?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:59 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:
If it's those two tabs that are being a hindrance, it shouldn't be that difficult to take them off. Exacto knife ought to do it, nail clippers too. Cut those little suckers off, sand down what's left, and that should eliminate the problem entirely. What I'm curious about is how big of an effect, positive or negative, would have on the whole figure.

What it is really is that there is now way for the hinge that the waist is on to fold up against the underside of the body properly. you couldnt cut it off since you would be cutting off the whole hinge the body is attached to the waist with. There really isnt a way to fix this besides replacing that whole hinge/waist area :BOT:


If you watch the video, you'll notice trapezoidal bits that the hinge is being pressed against, get rid of those, and the pelvis should rest against the torso flush.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:02 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
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If it's those two tabs that are being a hindrance, it shouldn't be that difficult to take them off. Exacto knife ought to do it, nail clippers too. Cut those little suckers off, sand down what's left, and that should eliminate the problem entirely. What I'm curious about is how big of an effect, positive or negative, would have on the whole figure.

What it is really is that there is now way for the hinge that the waist is on to fold up against the underside of the body properly. you couldnt cut it off since you would be cutting off the whole hinge the body is attached to the waist with. There really isnt a way to fix this besides replacing that whole hinge/waist area :BOT:


If you watch the video, you'll notice trapezoidal bits that the hinge is being pressed against, get rid of those, and the pelvis should rest against the torso flush.

I'm not very sure. That is something that will have to wait for some inhand stuff :BOT:
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Video Review: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Deluxe Class Swindle

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Shuttershock » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:16 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:HA! Even hasbro is using the pelvis mis-transformation to cover up the fact that they f@$ked up Brawl :BANG_HEAD:

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Perhaps that's been the right way to transform it all along? Better that it doesn't lock in than have that floppy mess?


I remember seeing test shots of a beige Brawl that used that pose. Either way, that's probably the way he'll be configured for me, because even if Takara CAN fix it, make a shuttle Blast Off off their own yen, give everyone G1 guns and cure cancer, it costs more than I'm willing to be picky about.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Doctor McGrath » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:28 pm

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G2 Bruticus looks fun but I wish the G2 colors weren't the go to recolor since we just got them in the FoC line. I would have rather seen Ruination.
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