Emerje wrote:Right, they're Titan partners so they got the Siege treatment. They maintained their pattern.
...I misinterpreted what you were saying with this part, I took it too literally. We're on the same page here, yeah.
Emerje wrote:Listing Detritus just means they had a clearer idea of who the figure is supposed to be, it doesn't tell us anything about what the figure looks like. Nobody said it can't still be a Jeep.
Oh, okay, we're kinda thinking the same thing. See, I thought the fact that Junkion 1/2/3 were all unnamed (until Scraphook changed last-minute) is because those ones are all gonna be the same in terms of being modular new character Junkions (specifically the 3 visible on the poster, I'm guessing) that they were still finalizing, which we seem to agree on and makes me think of when the Fossilizers first leaked. However, that to me makes Detritus being a named/existing character immediately separate from those 3, and therefore I'm expecting an accurate Detritus instead of a new modular take on the character, otherwise they would have called him Junkion 4/some other name instead. Honestly, I'm half-expecting them to market him as a Mercenary and explicitly
not call him a Junkion so kids don't try to rip him apart like the other 3 (even though I would think the instructions and packaging would still make it clear that he doesn't come apart anyway).
I've still got no real clue with the Voyager one though, just those potential theories I mentioned.
Emerje wrote:It doesn't make sense to me for the new Hound retool to be a nobody in the main line while the intended use of the mold gets relegated to being an exclusive.
For the record, I want to be wrong about this.
Emerje
Okay I think there's a few factors here.
-First of all, you're assuming Hound is the only "intended use" of the mold, whereas I think the fact they've held off on making Detritus since Siege means he was always planned to come from this tooling of the mold alongside Hound, so they would arguably both be the "intended use"
-Second, Hound will still be coming out practically a year ahead of Detritus, so they're still doing the marketable guy first of the two of them, which is on-brand for Hasbro (see: Core Volcanicus obviously being molds intended for a different dino combiner)
-Third, Hasbro has been very consistent about NOT releasing Earth mode redos at mainline retail as the exact same characters that were previously at retail unless that character was Optimus/Megatron/Starscream. The Earth Datsun mold was released at retail as specifically Smokescreen, who was the only Datsun that had been a Selects release during Siege, and Soundwave, Thundercracker, Sideswipe, Red Alert, Mirage, Ironhide, Prowl, and Barricade were all exclusives in ER and Kingdom after having been retail releases during Siege. Hound being an exclusive only continues that trend.
-Fourth, there's no way to justify including Detritus in a Buzzworthy Bumblebee
Studio Series wave if you were to switch who gets released where, even though Hound works under either release method by virtue of SS86
-Lastly, if we're going off of product codes, then Detritus comes out in Legacy Evolution Wave 4 alongside Strongarm & Bombshell (presumably 2 new molds), and a Tarantulas repack, which seems unusually new-mold heavy for a Deluxe Wave 4...unless you compare to Siege, which also had Mirage and Impactor (new molds), Barricade (repaint/slight retool), and a Sixgun repack, which then makes Detritus's role in that wave make sense. Could you have done Hound there instead? Assuming the Earth jeep tooling had already released once before and other above reasons were being ignored, then yes, but then people would have just complained about how long it took to get Earth Hound and him being in a potentially hard-to-find tail-end wave instead of complaining that he's an exclusive.
