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News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:37 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?

Combinrs Wars Leaders are not combiners so it's not far fetched that this guy is not.

That prototype is Voyager-sized...

I know. I should have added that voyeger combiner wars figures are a thing. Just take a look a cyclonus, remold/repaint of Brainstorm.

Silverbolt, and forms the torso of "Galvatronus".

News Credits: 96 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:40 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?

Combinrs Wars Leaders are not combiners so it's not far fetched that this guy is not.

That prototype is Voyager-sized...

I know. I should have added that voyeger combiner wars figures are a thing. Just take a look a cyclonus, remold/repaint of Brainstorm.

Silverbolt, and forms the torso of "Galvatronus".

Wait. He's a remold of Silverbolt? K.

But... GALVATRONUS?!

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:44 am

Not again... #-o

Anyway, we don't really know what these prototypes are for. Proof of concept, upcoming or canceled figures? They definitely don't combine though, so naming them "Combiner Wars" is kind of misleading.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:50 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not again...

Anyway, we don't really know what these prototypes are for. Proof of concept, upcoming or canceled figures? They definitely don't combine though, so naming them "Combiner Wars" is kind of misleading.

May have excitedly jumped the gun on that one, yes. The articles have both been retitled. Thanks all.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:51 am

I'm changing my tune to...

ThatOneMoose wrote:this could just be an example of how they make toys, showing kids the process of prototypes, sculpting, final product, etc... (this is at that children's museum, right?)

These are probably canned prototypes. There is no way Uncle Hasby would put something upcoming on display.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:54 am

Yeah, that is now my line of thinking too.
Am I allowed to go take a nap right now?

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:58 am

It Is Him wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I really, really like the Classic Seeker mould, but I gotta admit it's way too small next to Hegemon and the Autobots. I like this. It actually seems just about right. The right size with the right amount of G1 influence. And the Classics Seekers may not look totally stupid next to him.

I just might be down for seven of these (the main six + Sunstorm). But I'm not going crazy with making another Seeker army.

If the Seeekers are getting an upgrade in size I may need a new Voyager Soundwave (I've stuck with Music Label so far; it looks good next to Classics SS) ...

FOC Soundwave is used in the comic books. Easily my favorite Generations mold.

I know he's what the comics went with (for a while anyway), but ... I dunno. He's the right size, but I want something closer to his G1 self. FoC made him really bulky and large.

*checks ebay* And it's $60!? Seriously!? Already??

It's really too bad that old BTS version is such garbage. I have him in alt. mode amongst my cassettes and transformed him again just for kicks and placed him with my cons. It just doesn't work at all.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:00 am

Va'al wrote:Yeah, that is now my line of thinking too.
Am I allowed to go take a nap right now?

Good night.

News Credits: 3557 · by **Seibertron** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:06 am

Whatever this STarscream prototype is, it is definitely not an upscaled Legends figure.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:14 am

Seibertron wrote:Whatever this STarscream prototype is, it is definitely not an upscaled Legends figure.

It's definitely based on it, but it's not a carbon copy. Kinda like these two Predakings:

Taking cues from the transformation, while changing details, joints and some steps of the transformation.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:14 am

Rated X wrote:Kinda fugly. Should have made it look more like the classics mold. That mold will never be topped.

Unless they upsize it to Voyager scale with some added articulation.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:21 am

Cobotron wrote:I'm changing my tune to...
ThatOneMoose wrote:this could just be an example of how they make toys, showing kids the process of prototypes, sculpting, final product, etc... (this is at that children's museum, right?)
These are probably canned prototypes. There is no way Uncle Hasby would put something upcoming on display.

S'what I'm thinkin.

I agree he shares a lot with Legends SS, but he clearly ain't a simple Legends upscale. It's probably just something to show off, that will remain unproduced :-(

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:38 am

Hoping this gets released. Wanted a CHUG Voyager seeker toy for quite some time. While the 1.0 Seeker toy looks nice, Felt it was small.

Don't see a problem with Hasbro putting non combiners toys in the Combiners Wars toy line. It's already being done with some Legends and Leader Class toys.

Thinking if this toy is a CW Voyager and can combine with deluxes. Then the toy can get repurposed for a CW Leozack Liokaiser combiner.

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News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:51 am

I can't shake the feeling that this Seeker design looks familiar, but nothing's coming to mind.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:56 am

JelZe GoldRabbit, You bought up good speculation if this toy has knee articulation or not.

Ryan, If your still at the children's musueem. Can you please take a close look at the Voyager class Starscream Prototype on display. Please can you confirm or not if this has knee articulation.

:-?

Wondering if test shots have ever appeared on display at toy fair or conventions with missing articulated parts. Then got more articulation in further along test shots or final toy versions.

Think it would be a travesty if HasTak even attempted. To released a 2015 CHUG Voyager toy with no articulated knees.

Speculating this has got to be a canceled toy.

by **griftimus prime** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:57 am

cool lets see what happens

News Credits: 23 · by **Madeus Prime** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:57 am

Looks like an upscale/retool of the Legends Starscream. I'd buy that.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:00 pm

Those arms :shock:

I bet if you shouted around this figure, it'd echo for days.

News Credits: 3 · by **Shockwave7** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:08 pm

I donno... funky production colors aside, I have my doubts looking at this mold. Seems a bit simplistic, and the many exposed hollow parts look... unprofessional.

News Credits: 3 · by **Shockwave7** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:09 pm

double post

by **Gearslide** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:27 pm

...I can't really tell, but does that Starscream prototype even have functioning knees? Cause those legs almost look like solid plastic save for the bottom where the feet are.

News Credits: 13 · by **grimdragon2001** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:33 pm

Va'al wrote:Ready to get those rumour engines revving again? Site owner Seibertron is currently in Indianapolis, visiting the Children's Museum exhibition on our favourite transforming robots - Transformers: Robots in Disguise. We will have further information from the show at a later stage, but in the meantime, to stoke the flames of Starscream speculation - after a Masterpiece rumour, a new Generations Leader - how about a look at a prototype for a potential upcoming Voyager figure of the current leader of Cybertron? Check out the images below, showing the body we've seen on the IDW comics covers and in fact, even a similar pose...

Does Anybody else get the Cyberverse Upscaled vibe from him. He kinda looks like he could be based off the Legends toy that came out last year

News Credits: 4 · by **Slashercon** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:40 pm

What I like: Voyager sized, nice slender physique, very IDW inspired design
What I don't like: hollowness (possibly forgivable depending on the final product) and lack of wrist articulation (look and tell me its not there.)

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:40 pm

I'm thinking this Starscream could be a 2up of the early legends design. These often look like this, slightly miss-transformed, so the designers can share what their ideas are for the figure. At this point decisions would be made as to what stays and goes, if this is the Legends figure it makes sense they took out those missile launchers and changed the wings a bit.

News Credits: 1 · by **sideswipe6520** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:45 pm

I don't get the hype. All I really see is a modified "upscale" of the legends class seeker mold.
With added bends to the wings and different joints and maybe a ball jointed head. But it is clearly an upscale of the legends mold.