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News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:33 am

Am I the only one who's going gaga over the Targetmaster? :lol:

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:35 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives

News Credits: 4522 · by **william-james88** » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:36 am

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Am I the only one who's going gaga over the Targetmaster?

If you mean that Crocodile, then no, I am going gaga over it too

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:45 am

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives

I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Am I the only one who's going gaga over the Targetmaster?

Which one? There are several out now with more to come.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:56 am

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:32 pm

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:/:)

I would be more into it if that mold didn't get reused so much during Siege. Surprised Takara aren't rolling out those Gashapon Microns from Prime.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:51 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives

I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

It's strange though since this seems to be a problem unique to toys. Anything else sold in stores I can order online and pick up the same day, but for toys they seem to actively limit what you can buy. I've lost track of the number of times Target has had something listed as in stock at a local store and refused to let me add it for pickup or refused to let me do site to store. Walmart at least will leave most listings active even when they're sold out, but Target removes listings pretty regularly even when you know something is in stock in a local store. Frustrating.

Emerje

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:55 pm

Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives

I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

It's strange though since this seems to be a problem unique to toys. Anything else sold in stores I can order online and pick up the same day, but for toys they seem to actively limit what you can buy. I've lost track of the number of times Target has had something listed as in stock at a local store and refused to let me add it for pickup or refused to let me do site to store. Walmart at least will leave most listings active even when they're sold out, but Target removes listings pretty regularly even when you know something is in stock in a local store. Frustrating.

Emerje

Because toys are often destination purchases, meaning you only buy them when you have/want to and thus will bring you into the store and thus may lead you to buying something else from another department.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:44 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives

I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

It's strange though since this seems to be a problem unique to toys. Anything else sold in stores I can order online and pick up the same day, but for toys they seem to actively limit what you can buy. I've lost track of the number of times Target has had something listed as in stock at a local store and refused to let me add it for pickup or refused to let me do site to store. Walmart at least will leave most listings active even when they're sold out, but Target removes listings pretty regularly even when you know something is in stock in a local store. Frustrating.

Emerje

Because toys are often destination purchases, meaning you only buy them when you have/want to and thus will bring you into the store and thus may lead you to buying something else from another department.

Same is true for media, but they have a full selection of games, movies and books on the site. If you go on Target and search Manga you'll find 26 pages, most of which are in stock and "not available in stores" despite having a fair selection in stores, too. If they can do that with media then they're just as capable of doing it with toys.

Emerje

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:17 am

Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives

I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

It's strange though since this seems to be a problem unique to toys. Anything else sold in stores I can order online and pick up the same day, but for toys they seem to actively limit what you can buy. I've lost track of the number of times Target has had something listed as in stock at a local store and refused to let me add it for pickup or refused to let me do site to store. Walmart at least will leave most listings active even when they're sold out, but Target removes listings pretty regularly even when you know something is in stock in a local store. Frustrating.

Emerje

Because toys are often destination purchases, meaning you only buy them when you have/want to and thus will bring you into the store and thus may lead you to buying something else from another department.

Same is true for media, but they have a full selection of games, movies and books on the site. If you go on Target and search Manga you'll find 26 pages, most of which are in stock and "not available in stores" despite having a fair selection in stores, too. If they can do that with media then they're just as capable of doing it with toys.

Emerje

They could, but I think different items have different theories behind them. Remember, they still believe that kids drive toy sales, thus it's kids looking for toys that bring parents into the store and then hopefully they have the attitude of "While I'm here..." I don't think Manga has that pull. By the way, not that I really look, but I never see Manga at my Target.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:49 am

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:35 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:Same is true for media, but they have a full selection of games, movies and books on the site. If you go on Target and search Manga you'll find 26 pages, most of which are in stock and "not available in stores" despite having a fair selection in stores, too. If they can do that with media then they're just as capable of doing it with toys.

Emerje

They could, but I think different items have different theories behind them. Remember, they still believe that kids drive toy sales, thus it's kids looking for toys that bring parents into the store and then hopefully they have the attitude of "While I'm here..." I don't think Manga has that pull. By the way, not that I really look, but I never see Manga at my Target.

Manga does have that pull and it follows the same demographic. In fact it pretty regularly shows up in the weekly ads to get people into stores to buy it, including this week:

My local store has one full shelf section dedicated to it.

Emerje

News Credits: 96 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:24 pm

Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:Same is true for media, but they have a full selection of games, movies and books on the site. If you go on Target and search Manga you'll find 26 pages, most of which are in stock and "not available in stores" despite having a fair selection in stores, too. If they can do that with media then they're just as capable of doing it with toys.

Emerje

They could, but I think different items have different theories behind them. Remember, they still believe that kids drive toy sales, thus it's kids looking for toys that bring parents into the store and then hopefully they have the attitude of "While I'm here..." I don't think Manga has that pull. By the way, not that I really look, but I never see Manga at my Target.

Manga does have that pull and it follows the same demographic. In fact it pretty regularly shows up in the weekly ads to get people into stores to buy it, including this week:

target manga.JPG

My local store has one full shelf section dedicated to it.

Emerje

It's bizarre that Manga )and Anime) is still considered a "kid thing" in the West, despite being mainstream for at least 20 years over here. Plus, it's also just a medium to convey stories for ALL ages and ALL genres.

Also, it's not rare for Western IPs to have a manga adaptation so maybe a Transformers manga or anime that would be well made and is not a parody could be made. Something with a high budget left to the Japanese creators would be perfect.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:02 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:It's bizarre that Manga )and Anime) is still considered a "kid thing" in the West, despite being mainstream for at least 20 years over here. Plus, it's also just a medium to convey stories for ALL ages and ALL genres.

It's all because big corporations in the West still refuse to see comic books and animation as anything more than just "for kids". Unless it's explicitly pornographic, or something like Family Guy and South Park. Then they'll recognize it as "mature content". Sadly, there's no in-between. It's either one extreme or the other.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, it's not rare for Western IPs to have a manga adaptation so maybe a Transformers manga or anime that would be well made and is not a parody could be made. Something with a high budget left to the Japanese creators would be perfect.

Unfortunately, the problem with how comics and animation are viewed in the West is the exact same problem with how Transformers is viewed in Japan. In other words, Japan sees Transformers media as kids stuff aimed primarily at a very young audience, hence why every single Japanese-made Transformers anime (The Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, Beast Wars Second, Beast Wars Neo, Car Robots, Legends of the Microns, Superlink, Galaxy Force, and Go!) have all been made with a grade school-aged audience in mind, and why many Japanese Transformers dubs (G1, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Animated, Prime, and Robots in Disguise 2015) have been dumbed down from their original English versions. It's all because of the belief in Japan that piloted robots are for more grown up audiences while living robots are goofy kiddie stuff.

News Credits: 96 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:12 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:It's bizarre that Manga )and Anime) is still considered a "kid thing" in the West, despite being mainstream for at least 20 years over here. Plus, it's also just a medium to convey stories for ALL ages and ALL genres.
It's all because big corporations in the West still refuse to see comic books and animation as anything more than just "for kids". Unless it's explicitly pornographic, or something like Family Guy and South Park. Then they'll recognize it as "mature content". Sadly, there's no in-between. It's either one extreme or the other.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, it's not rare for Western IPs to have a manga adaptation so maybe a Transformers manga or anime that would be well made and is not a parody could be made. Something with a high budget left to the Japanese creators would be perfect.
Unfortunately, the problem with how comics and animation are viewed in the West is the exact same problem with how Transformers is viewed in Japan. In other words, Japan sees Transformers media as kids stuff aimed primarily at a very young audience, hence why every single Japanese-made Transformers anime (The Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, Beast Wars Second, Beast Wars Neo, Car Robots, Legends of the Microns, Superlink, Galaxy Force, and Go!) have all been made with a grade school-aged audience in mind, and why many Japanese Transformers dubs (G1, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Animated, Prime, and Robots in Disguise 2015) have been dumbed down from their original English versions. It's all because of the belief in Japan that piloted robots are for more grown up audiences while living robots are goofy kiddie stuff.

It's hilarious to see the "same problem" being flipped over East-West. :lol:

by **Till-all-R1** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:51 pm

Sabrblade wrote:It's all because big corporations in the West still refuse to see comic books and animation as anything more than just "for kids". Unless it's explicitly pornographic, or something like Family Guy and South Park. Then they'll recognize it as "mature content". Sadly, there's no in-between. It's either one extreme or the other.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, it's not rare for Western IPs to have a manga adaptation so maybe a Transformers manga or anime that would be well made and is not a parody could be made.

I've yet to see a Western adaptation that has been any good anyway, either direct Japanese or even a Korean adaptation are generally much better. Maybe because they have a better understanding of the source material, or the western version has to be altered and watered down so much to appeal to a general movie going audience.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:54 pm

All these years and I can't get over that transformers is still considered kid friendly even though there's death and violence in the shows.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:16 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:All these years and I can't get over that transformers is still considered kid friendly even though there's death and violence in the shows.

Japan is also very lenient about what they let their younger audiences view. They're nowhere nearly as Puritanical as the U.S. is.

Dragon Ball Z, for instance, had lots of blood and violence in it, yet was still considered a kids anime. Its original Japanese ending theme songs being super silly and cutesy are a testament of that.

News Credits: 96 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:33 am

Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:All these years and I can't get over that transformers is still considered kid friendly even though there's death and violence in the shows.
Japan is also very lenient about what they let their younger audiences view. They're nowhere nearly as Puritanical as the U.S. is.

Dragon Ball Z, for instance, had lots of blood and violence in it, yet was still considered a kids anime. Its original Japanese ending theme songs being super silly and cutesy are a testament of that.

Hokuto No Ken (Fist of the North Star) was also a "kid anime" way back in the early 1980's.
In France, they dubbed the series and aired the episodes on TV without censor. But after a few episodes, there were complains for some reasons. :lol:

If the ROTB movie is well received, I'd love to have a cartoon series based on that movie. Especially if it focus on the :MAXIMAL:

VS the Terrorcon (or something.) No current year politics, brilliant writing like the original BW series, and a budget to make the CGI episodes look "real enough".

But I think I'm asking for the Moon with this.

by **M. Spector** » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:18 pm

Here in the far North my local Target started putting some RoTB stuff out! They had the big buzzworthy three pack with Cheetor, NB and van Wheeljack as well as some of the simpler beast armor things AND the little Targetmaster dudes!! I bought the rhino and crocodile ones and am looking forward to opening them tonight

News Credits: 4522 · by **william-james88** » Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:50 pm

Some images are being shared across social media of voyager Optimus Primal from the Transformers Rise of the Beasts line. While the images do show us the entire figure, most images show it mistransformed or in mid transformation. We do have an ok look at the bot mode but it's not the same with the alt mode. It does seem like the idea of the transformation is that there is a head swap, like the Kingdom toy, and there are different chest panels for the gorilla and bot mode.

This is meant to be in the first wave of voyagers from the main line while the Rhinox and Optimus Prime wave we saw would be wave 2. But we'll see if that's still the case since wave assortments can change.

News Credits: 4522 · by **william-james88** » Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:21 pm

Boom and just like that, your toy aisles now have a whole new assortment of Transformers toys. We have reports from many collectors that they have now found all gimmick toys already revealed by Hasbro for the Rise of the Beasts line. There is more to come of course, like further waves and further classes, but those have not been revealed by Hasbro yet. The Beast Weaponizers 2-Pack and the Battle Channgers (which includes Rhinox, Optimus Prime and Bumblebee) have been found at Meijer stores. The individual targetmasters, like Cheetor and Rhinox, are appearing at Targets. The image below is from Shane Shane.

We still have yet to see the mainline voyagers, individual deluxes or one steps, but none of those have been revealed by Hasbro yet.

We will post reviews when they come in. For now, we have one for the Beast Weaponizer 2-packs.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:If there's one gimmick in the ROTB main toyline that will attract collectors it's the Beast Weaponizers, small robotic animals that turn into weapons like blasters, swords, crossbows, and chainsaws; the last two are featured here with Optimus Primal and Optimus Prime. Both Primal and Prime are basic figures but feature more articulation than the Beast Combiner figures, which makes them a bit more fun. The Weaponizers remind me of the Arms Micron era of Transformers and complement the larger robots well. Between the two I feel Optimus Prime is better due to having more articulation and a more pronounced alternate mode.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:25 pm

Don't worry folks, Chuck Daddy has you covered!

News Credits: 1 · by **Bumblevivisector** » Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:07 pm

Well, that packaging makes the Rhino-Vulcan look even more...BAD-ASS!

"Boy, lead gets hot inshide deshe rhinos...'

Definitely picking up at least one!

News Credits: 10 · by **JazZeke** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:21 am

william-james88 wrote:Some images are being shared across social media of voyager Optimus Primal from the Transformers Rise of the Beasts line. While the images do show us the entire figure, most images show it mistransformed or in mid transformation. We do have an ok look at the bot mode but it's not the same with the alt mode. It does seem like the idea of the transformation is that there is a head swap, like the Kingdom toy, and there are different chest panels for the gorilla and bot mode.

This is meant to be in the first wave of voyagers from the main line while the Rhinox and Optimus Prime wave we saw would be wave 2. But we'll see if that's still the case since wave assortments can change.

Man, I don't wanna sound overly negative, but this is such a boring design. It really annoys me just how monotone Primal is. How do they expect audiences to follow the action when Optimus is just gonna be a blur of solid black?